Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Angela Merkel

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    6,161

    Angela Merkel

    She is the consrevative running agaisnt Shroeder in Germany for Chancelleor. She wants to rebuild good ties to the US. I want her to win.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    The Cloud of Unknowing
    Posts
    17,425
    I am no big Merkel fan, nor am I fan of the current German government. The only difference between the Social Democrats and the conservatives, is that the latter want to give more tax breaks, and less spending on social security, the environment et cetera.

    You can say that the German social security model is outdated, but at the same time productivity per hour in Germany is much higher than in the UK or in the US. So the Germans can pay for that. But it is businesses who find it appalling that they have to pay a bit of taxes too.

    And even in the 70's research has shown that the poor tax-payers are effectively subsidizing the rich. I don't see a reason why that trend should continue to exist, and even less why that should increase.
    The butterfly counts not months but moments, and has time enough. - Rabindranath Tagore

    Keep true to the dreams of your youth. - Friedrich Schiller

    The only philosophy which can be responsibly practised in face of despair is the attempt to contemplate all things as they would present themselves from the standpoint of redemption. - Theodor Adorno

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    6,161
    They have a really high unemployment rate and a stagnate econmic growth. Though im not sure if she can change that.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    The Cloud of Unknowing
    Posts
    17,425
    Yes, but most of the unemployment rate is caused by unemployment in the former East Germany. Don't forget that the average working hour in Germany is much more productive than the average working hour in the US. In the East there are simply but a few jobs.
    In a lot of cases West-German companies bought their East-German counterparts with huge subsidies from the State, only to close the acquired companies down. Thus giving these companies billions of dollars in tax breaks and subsidies, which were subsequently pocketed by the shareholders, and companies themselves.

    Part of the problem is of course the difference in mentality in West- and East-Germany. But no political party can change that, and the only thing that can offer hope to people in East-Germany is lasting employment, and industrial and service indrustry jobs.
    You cannot realistically make a legal exception for employment rights in East-Germany and expect the people who get paid less (and that is what is happening) to be content with that. Nor can you make a drastic lowering in legal rights of employees in the whole of Germany and expecting people to be happy about it.
    The butterfly counts not months but moments, and has time enough. - Rabindranath Tagore

    Keep true to the dreams of your youth. - Friedrich Schiller

    The only philosophy which can be responsibly practised in face of despair is the attempt to contemplate all things as they would present themselves from the standpoint of redemption. - Theodor Adorno

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    6,161
    Yeah production per hour is higher, but our total production, GDP is much higher. But yeah you are right about a lot of it coming from east germany, i know some people from there that didnt have a phone until 1993.


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Florida, USA
    Posts
    13,201

    Re: Angela Merkel

    Quote Originally Posted by darkangelism
    She wants to rebuild good ties to the US.
    They all will. We are the only ones who will be willing to feed them when their economic glass house blows up in their face.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    6,161
    they dont exactly have a good economy right now, 11% unemployment is bad.


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •